WL life after Geylang + Meeting up in their home country

[naan1974]

Originally Posted by Wonderwoman76

I do happen to still keep in contact with a couple of WLs who have rtc’d.

It can be quite fun if I’m in China for work and want familiar company. The sex did change a little bit. More like lover’s sex. Still very good in a different way, like CIP becomes a norm if right after code red but no more AR (cos she said that is work).

I will have to pay for the flights and the train tickets to move them from their home town to the major cities I go for work. Basically pay for everything, hotels, meals, small gifts. I don’t really mind as the couple of girls I meet are quite nice and the sex is worth it.

A lot easier to arrange for those still in this trade, part timer FL etc. Those totally off the trafe require bit more effort and maintainance tho. Nonetheless money usually works wonder

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by happytree123

My understanding for some is they really lack financial literacy. While the goal is maximise earnings say gross earnings of $7K a month, they really can splurge on their family and themselves.

So end up, once RTC, they are not really better off. In fact, I truly believe some will end up in the same financial situation few years down the road. The GL earnings might give them a reasonable gd life in Tier 3 towns but def. not sustainable for T2 cities.

Whether they wanna get fucked again is another big question given they are already older (market value drop once hit 30 & above) and a "safe" market like Singapore is no longer open to them already.

That is at least for the China WLs I have knowledge of. They really have to grab a decent guy for financial support if they don't intend to slog it out once back home. Those have family business still okay.

It is basically survival.

Even for us in Singapore. When do we want to be semi retired? It is very different in other countries as compared to Singapore.

Imagine we worked till 60yo, then we get money from CPF Life. Plus we can easily find some relax job for $2K/mth, can get by already.

But they go back when they are 30yo+. Then must take care of family, kids, etc. They have very limited option. Which means they will end up back to doing the same thing.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by walao

Yes u have your point..no money no talk. I wouldnt say 'luckily' she is an orphan, so ticked most of your stated list and saved on crowd support. Monetary stamina is the word..and good planning for rainy days to cover all and one self are essential too. People change. Not all WLs want to lead a forever WL life. They do yearn for a stable and harmonious life. They are human beings afterall, humans have emotions. Both sides have to have an open heart and move on, dont look back. Easy said than be done. But can be done. Always have an.open mindset to expect the unexpected. Whatever the opposite sex motives , are, take it as a pinch of salt.

Walao

Walao

Frankly, if they can have option to not work like this, they will definitely go for it. But the problem is that there is no such option for them. Unless they find a guy who will take care of them.

Other than that, they have basically no option anymore.

Once they go back, 30yo+ .... no guy to support them, what can they do? Continue to work in the sex trade until they cannot work anymore, then hope for the best that somewhere in between they find "a way out".

That's why : No money, no talk.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by Wonderwoman76

I do happen to still keep in contact with a couple of WLs who have rtc’d.

It can be quite fun if I’m in China for work and want familiar company. The sex did change a little bit. More like lover’s sex. Still very good in a different way, like CIP becomes a norm if right after code red but no more AR (cos she said that is work).

I will have to pay for the flights and the train tickets to move them from their home town to the major cities I go for work. Basically pay for everything, hotels, meals, small gifts. I don’t really mind as the couple of girls I meet are quite nice and the sex is worth it.

They are basically "fishing". Plus maybe some feeling also lah.

Unless they have some sort of income back home, what they hope is eventually maybe you will take care of them. They have nothing to lose by meeting you but it is an opportunity for them.

You can do all that because you have the means to do it. So to them, it is basically kind of like "barter trade".

If you book budget hotel, eat simple cheap food and they still stick with you, then maybe there is true feeling.

As the saying goes : 患难见真情.

[walao]

Originally Posted by bradpitt968

Frankly, if they can have option to not work like this, they will definitely go for it. But the problem is that there is no such option for them. Unless they find a guy who will take care of them.

Other than that, they have basically no option anymore.

Once they go back, 30yo+ .... no guy to support them, what can they do? Continue to work in the sex trade until they cannot work anymore, then hope for the best that somewhere in between they find "a way out".

That's why : No money, no talk.

So basically 1st paragraph ticked. Last paragraph didnt exist at this stage. 1st para eliminates the 2nd.

[happytree123]

Originally Posted by bradpitt968

They are basically "fishing". Plus maybe some feeling also lah.

Unless they have some sort of income back home, what they hope is eventually maybe you will take care of them. They have nothing to lose by meeting you but it is an opportunity for them.

You can do all that because you have the means to do it. So to them, it is basically kind of like "barter trade".

If you book budget hotel, eat simple cheap food and they still stick with you, then maybe there is true feeling.

As the saying goes : 患难见真情.

A close WL once said in China, once you hit 35, your life as good as gone already. I thought it was a China joke until I checked it out on XHS.

Almost no one will hire you even for low wage jobs and your chances of getting hitched is also pretty much game over. The problem is further compounded by WLs like them who may be lowly educated or have too much gap in their work experience.

In any case, one should not set up too high expectations for you and the ex-WL. I told my WL that RTC, that in the meantime before you find a decent rich guy to hook up with, feel free to join me on a China holiday. Both of you don say but deep down should acknowledge that you two will always be "Friend with Benefits"

Go to places that you never been before like Beijing or CQ. You don suffer any loss since I cover the accoms and flight tickets while I have someone to accompany me. Sex is secondary, primarily just someone to have fun with. I don over sell the idea. I confirm stay at cheaper hotels and no fancy food, if she okay then just come along. No pressure.

After some RTF in SG and probably some outing/Wechat convo, you probably can get a sense of how she is like. It may not be 100% accurate but if you can guess 75%, that is good enough already.

[SadLoser]

Just curious how much did you guys have to spend before the WL agrees to go out with you for dinner, shopping etc?

Visit her once a week and become regular enough? Or need to give her fat tips after each visit

[electronics]

Originally Posted by SadLoser

Just curious how much did you guys have to spend before the WL agrees to go out with you for dinner, shopping etc?

Visit her once a week and become regular enough? Or need to give her fat tips after each visit

My experience is first visit, we clicked and some weeks later agreed to meet while she on period break. I would say this is rare and not a usual occurrence, at least for me.

It also helps if she is the one reaching out through text messages first.

[walao]

Originally Posted by electronics

My experience is first visit, we clicked and some weeks later agreed to meet while she on period break. I would say this is rare and not a usual occurrence, at least for me.

It also helps if she is the one reaching out through text messages first.

I did not need to wait for her period....its a blessing her hse was pretty liberal in WLs outings, as long as they come back on time. If they are on leaves, they must come back before 2200. Thats how love blossoms even more through reg. Communication and contacts till we together permanently. No need to worry anymore curfews or bloody cctvs.

Walao

[bullterrier]

pointers

There is no free lunch. If you give her nothing, then her meeting you in China is a waste of her time, not your time

Most of the WLs who went back, after a short time, will return to the same job, what some bros said here is true, either to Zhuhai/Macau/Korea/South Africa/South America. It is very difficult for them to step out of this line unless they find a very good angel guy who can bring them income. They need money to survive, their kids, their house instalment etc

if you want to meet them in China or elsewhere, be prepared to spend money. They are not going to eat at road side stall. They are not prepared to leave empty handed. Either a shopping spree buy handbags or some jewellery or.... Yes, after that RAW session, your rod controls your mind. The coming of a few RAW sessions will drain your wallet dry.

[happytree123]

Originally Posted by bullterrier

pointers

There is no free lunch. If you give her nothing, then her meeting you in China is a waste of her time, not your time

Most of the WLs who went back, after a short time, will return to the same job, what some bros said here is true, either to Zhuhai/Macau/Korea/South Africa/South America. It is very difficult for them to step out of this line unless they find a very good angel guy who can bring them income. They need money to survive, their kids, their house instalment etc

if you want to meet them in China or elsewhere, be prepared to spend money. They are not going to eat at road side stall. They are not prepared to leave empty handed. Either a shopping spree buy handbags or some jewellery or.... Yes, after that RAW session, your rod controls your mind. The coming of a few RAW sessions will drain your wallet dry.

I shall put your 3rd paragraph to the test, when I maybe go find my regular who just RTC.

But I broadly agree with your 1st and 2nd paragraph

[apache]

The second para is very very true. Usually after a brief period of half a year, these WL will source for new place to work. They have enough lobang to travel to exotic places like Florence (Italy), places in Africa or South America where there is China Belt and Road investments, and also to Melbourne/Sydney (Australia)

Very difficult for them to exit this line, when the money comes in after they use their body.

Originally Posted by bullterrier

pointers

There is no free lunch. If you give her nothing, then her meeting you in China is a waste of her time, not your time

Most of the WLs who went back, after a short time, will return to the same job, what some bros said here is true, either to Zhuhai/Macau/Korea/South Africa/South America. It is very difficult for them to step out of this line unless they find a very good angel guy who can bring them income. They need money to survive, their kids, their house instalment etc

if you want to meet them in China or elsewhere, be prepared to spend money. They are not going to eat at road side stall. They are not prepared to leave empty handed. Either a shopping spree buy handbags or some jewellery or.... Yes, after that RAW session, your rod controls your mind. The coming of a few RAW sessions will drain your wallet dry.

[Dignified69]

Originally Posted by bullterrier

pointers

There is no free lunch. If you give her nothing, then her meeting you in China is a waste of her time, not your time

Most of the WLs who went back, after a short time, will return to the same job, what some bros said here is true, either to Zhuhai/Macau/Korea/South Africa/South America. It is very difficult for them to step out of this line unless they find a very good angel guy who can bring them income. They need money to survive, their kids, their house instalment etc

if you want to meet them in China or elsewhere, be prepared to spend money. They are not going to eat at road side stall. They are not prepared to leave empty handed. Either a shopping spree buy handbags or some jewellery or.... Yes, after that RAW session, your rod controls your mind. The coming of a few RAW sessions will drain your wallet dry.

I am currently going through this. For 17 years never raw till now. The feeling (most probably in my mind) is so nice. I feel so loved (confirm KC).

Have to control my wallet and not do another 2 sessions together but then many bro so you live only once.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by SadLoser

Just curious how much did you guys have to spend before the WL agrees to go out with you for dinner, shopping etc?

Visit her once a week and become regular enough? Or need to give her fat tips after each visit

If they like you, don't need to tip, don't need to spend much money. But if they don't like you, spend how much money, also may not go out with you.

They are here to earn money. The WLs who are not bad, hardworking, can earn $15K to $20K per month. There are WLs who are bad, who will make use of SIMP customers and get them to give them money. But most of the chio ones, they know they can earn money on their own. If they want to be "taken care of" by man, they also know that it is not difficult for them to find.

But to find one that can tick all the checkbox, tough. That is the fact of life.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by bullterrier

pointers

There is no free lunch. If you give her nothing, then her meeting you in China is a waste of her time, not your time

Most of the WLs who went back, after a short time, will return to the same job, what some bros said here is true, either to Zhuhai/Macau/Korea/South Africa/South America. It is very difficult for them to step out of this line unless they find a very good angel guy who can bring them income. They need money to survive, their kids, their house instalment etc

if you want to meet them in China or elsewhere, be prepared to spend money. They are not going to eat at road side stall. They are not prepared to leave empty handed. Either a shopping spree buy handbags or some jewellery or.... Yes, after that RAW session, your rod controls your mind. The coming of a few RAW sessions will drain your wallet dry.

Agree with you on all the points.

If managed to find exception, it is very heng.